Schober Organ Notes No. 68
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In this issue the self-portraits of Charles E. Witherell and Captain David
Casteel conclude. I will again postpone the information on the three manual
Schober as (fortunately) I have so much material that there is no space
in this issue.
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SELF PORTRAIT of Charles E. Witherell ( Conclusion)
Poor Electrical Contacts
Another problem that has been quite troublesome on the Schober organ, practically
ever since it was first built and has persisted until fairly recently,
is poor/intermittent electrical contact between the small gold-plated springs
and the gold-plated busbars. This occurs on all key contacts and stop tab
contacts, manuals and pedals. Infrequent use (several-day intervals or
longer) would aggravate the problem. These are low-voltage point contacts
and there is apparently insufficient voltage to maintain a clean debris-free
and oxide-free surface. It probably does not require much of a film or
contamination at these contact points to insulate the contacting members
from one another. Wiping the busbars with a Q-Tip soaked in various contact
cleaners was of little or no use. Besides, limited physical access to the
manual key contacts not only made it virtually impossible to clean the
right place, but also carried the hazard of damaging something in the process.
Frequent playing of the organ seemed to be the only practical way of maintaining
good electrical contact; and even then, it could not be counted on as a
reliable method of maintaining electrical contact wherever needed.
It was only recently (within the last 3-5 years) that I learned of "Deoxit"
(manufactured by Caig Laboratories, San Diego, CA) and available at many
of the larger electronics supply outlets. After spraying the Schober organ
contacts liberally (not really dripping wet though) and playing as many
potentially affected contacts as possible soon after the application (as
recommended), intermittent contact problems have virtually vanished. This
is a very significant accomplishment considering that the organ has been
around for 33+ years, not always closed (not completely covered and the
back sometimes off for weeks at a time), characteristically dusty all over
the interior, and located in some of the worst atmospheric conditions around
(damp basement-area family rooms, industrial areas, fluctuating humidity
and temperatures, etc.). Whatever this product is (message on the can says:
"improves conductivity, deoxidizes, seals and protects conductors and contacts"),
it seems ideally suited for Schober organs, and probably other electronic
organs, as well. It is great stuff!
It may be of passing interest to note that the electrical (12 volt,
D.C.) contacts in the 1935 Moller pipe organ are simple thin flexible leaf
contacts (of German silver, I think) that wipe across busbar-like rods
of a similar alloy composition. In my opinion, the critical feature here
is in the wiping mode of contact, which tends to clean the contact surfaces
whenever contact is made. When we were installing the pipe organ, I observed
what appeared to be heavy deposits of dirt and dust, and probably oxide,
on all metal contacts (keys and stop tabs). Accordingly, I suspected major
problems down the road and therefore obtained a good supply of Deoxit thinking
it would be indispensable to get that organ playing. To my great surprise,
not a drop was ever needed -- never had a contact problem! I attribute
it to the wiping nature of those contacts.
Another perennial problem that was experienced during the early life of
the Schober organ had to do with the Reverbatape unit. From practically
the beginning (as noted in my correspondence with R. Avedon and others
at Schober, copies of which I still have) we experienced a noticeable "thump"
as the joint in the "endless" magnetic tape would traverse one of the several
pickup magnets of the mechanism. New tapes, adjustments of all kinds, and
many other "fixes," some suggested by Schober, did little or nothing to
solve this problem.
If tuned back (reverberation level decreased) the "thump" was not quite
so noticeable, but still there. After Schober closed, my stock of useable
tapes dwindled to zero. Attempts to fabricate my own worked for a time
but the product had an unacceptably short life, and the "thump" was always
there. To provide the necessary reverberation effect and to bypass the
Reverbatape unit, I purchased in about 1973 a commercial solid-state Pioneer
reverberation unit (Model SR-202W) and installed it in the Schober organ
in place of the Reverbatape unit. I have used it ever since (it sits atop
the organ console) and it responds well. It can be noisy though if the
console is struck with a foot or something that rattles the element inside
Stop Tablet Assembly
Over time, there has been a deterioration of the plastic baseboard assembly
where the stop tablet pivots are mounted. Usually, only one of the pivot
bearings or mounting points breaks, resulting in the stop tablet moving
over to one side. It still works the stop switching mechanism but the plastic
stop tablet becomes misaligned. If/when both pivots break, the stop tablet
is no longer useable but comes apart. It is difficult to repair this because
of accessibility restrictions. I usually live with the problem if only
one of the pivots on a stop tab break because of the difficulty in repairing
My approach to repair has been to clamp the broken pieces in alignment
as good as possible using modified hemostats, then applying fast-curing
epoxy at and around the fracture using the tip of a toothpick. This requires
plenty of light, a steady hand, and a lot of patience. For some locations,
it is necessary to remove a nearby wire bundle or two to merely gain access.
It is important here to avoid dropping epoxy onto adjacent components or
even getting too much on the item being repaired. The epoxy does not really
adhere well to the plastic either, so it is not an altogether satisfactory
repair. I have also experimented with a commercial adhesive marketed for
cementing sub floor panels in building construction and other construction
uses, and it does adhere to the plastic better. But this adhesive comes
in large tubes for use in caulking guns, making it a challenge to get just
a pinhead-sized amount out of the tube and onto the broken organ part.
Besides, it starts to cure the moment it comes out of the tube, requiring
the repairer to move quickly.
These are finicky time-consuming repairs to make and are not entirely
satisfactory either as there is a question about their long-term survival.
I have had repaired pivots break again later. From perusal of organ component
supply catalogs, stop tablet assemblies are readily available and would
probably work, with the right modifications, in the Schober Recital organ.
This application for any organ is the same as Schober; the only consideration
is fitting the assembly in there behind the wire bundles with everything
all assembled. For us, it is not an immediately urgent requirement, and
I am not looking forward to removing the whole stop tablet assembly (three
assemblies, actually) and trying to make another one from another organ
fit. Sooner or later, though, these original assemblies will have to be
removed and new ones from another organ modified to fit.
Tuning the organ's 13 oscillators using the Autotuner (stroboscopic principle)
was useable for only a short time, as the tuner mechanism itself needed
frequent repair and gradually became troublesome to use. I presently use
a battery-operated self-contained portable electronic tuner box ("Korg
Auto Chromatic Tuner") purchased for about $70 at a local music store.
It is intended for guitar tuning but works very well with the Schober organ.
There are no connections to make; just turn it on, play the note, and you
see the lamp light on either the high side or the low side of the right
I do have one oscillator (D) that drifts significantly if the organ
is not played regularly. Once the oscillator is retuned with the electronic
tuner box, it stays on pitch for a given playing session (up to a few hours
or so) but is usually off again when the organ is turned on the next day.
Not being an electronic genius makes me reluctant to try to troubleshoot
an intermittent oscillator drift problem. So, unless it becomes excessive
or gives out entirely, I am inclined to live with it. That is, unless another
"orphan" has had the problem and knows how to cure it.
There have been occasional hums and buzzes that defy their isolation and
fix, but installing ground wires and sheet metal shields have generally
kept these annoying noises to within a tolerable range. A fluorescent music
lamp on the rack on top of the console was particularly troublesome in
this respect, but the installation of a grounded galvanized sheet metal
formed shield run along and screwed to the entire underside of the console
top has just about eliminated this problem.
Combination Action Unit
As mentioned before, I had the combination action device (CRM-1) for some
time before installing it. Its installation and use has not been trouble-free,
unfortunately. The thin and odd U-shaped retainer springs that defy refitting
in their proper location tend to tinkle out and down into the organ's innards
from time to time, making life difficult. This unit is presently operating
more or less tolerably, but certainly not flawlessly. The keyboard buttons,
with the exception of one or two, tend to function, but about half of the
toe studs do not work. I believe this is due to broken wire connections
as the routing of the wires is not ideal.
Because of the delicate nature of the whole combination action (primarily
the ever-present threat of dislodging one of those wretched spring retainer
clip thingys), my wife has just about refused to use it. By way of comparison,
the combination action on the Moller pipe organ is not trouble-free by
any means either. Of course, its design is based on how things were done
in the 1920s and it has been doing it since then. It is presently finicky,
at best. When "properly" adjusted it tends to set OK and thereafter move
the stop tablets as desired. But the adjustment is delicate and ordinarily
inaccessible, requiring complete removal of the tambour top from the organ
console, among other things. This is an application where I believe the
electronic versions that are currently being used on new-generation electronic
and pipe organ retrofits are practically indispensable if a combination
action is desired.
The stop filter cards (small printed circuit boards, Schober Part No. 11231)
have developed problems occasionally. Rather than attempt to troubleshoot
these circuits, I have usually simply replaced them with newly-wired Radio
Shack components and some spare circuit boards supplied with Schober's
"Library of Stops" kit.
The boards are simple enough that they could probably be duplicated
using the do-it-yourself printed circuit kits sold in electronic parts
supply stores. I have made a layout from an unused card using my computer
scanner. A blow-up on appropriately-dimensioned high-contrast film (as
used in graphic arts work) would provide the negative for making the printer
circuit exposure. I still have an unused circuit board or two to work with
before I try to make one following this approach.
SELF PORTRAIT of Captain David Casteel (Conclusion)
Musically, I have been singing in church choirs for 54 years (since I was
9) and ringing handbells for about 10 or 12 years. My Recital organ has,
unfortunately, not been in constant use during the last decade or more
and has fallen into disrepair. Most of the problems are associated with
the tone generators not being stable any more and not holding a tune, so
I decided I would look into going to a more modern tone generation scheme
and remembered that Schober had come out with an IC driven single generator
board in the 1970s, but when I wrote to them in the 80s I found that they
had gone belly up and the new generator was not available--that is when
the organ went dormant. A few years ago I discovered the Schober Organ
Orphans web site and that has rekindled my desire to restore my Recital
Model to full functionality again. Since the single-board tone generator
kits are not available and I did not know of any suitable substitutes,
I have formulated a plan to attempt making a sort of "hybrid" approach
to digital tone generation whereby a crystal oscillator drives a top-octave
synthesizer (TOS) chip and the 12 tones so generated are fed into the existing
12 generator boards at a point past their original oscillator/amplifier
stages. The additional pitches needed would be generated by the existing
divide-by-2 flip-flop stages and the sawtooth waveshapes would be formed
by the attendant integrator circuits on those boards. The real beauty of
this approach (if it works) is that I will not have to disconnect all the
85 signal wires from the original 12 tone generator boards and reconnect
them to a new board--I will only have to make simple alterations in the
12 boards and connect 12 signal wires to them from the 2-chip TOS circuit.
I also don't have to build that huge resistor network on the single-board
generator which creates the pseudo-sawtooth waveshapes. Being basically
lazy, this is of great interest to me. I have most of the parts in hand
and some preliminary work under way for this project, but I don't have
enough done to really report back on it. I have had some excellent advice
from Richard McBeth (another "orphan") concerning how to marry the new
signal sources into the older boards and I am hoping to get the work completed
soon. When I have something tangible to report, I will write it up and
send it along for possible inclusion in the Notes.
Other side issues about me are that I have been a motorcyclist (until
a bad accident 12 years ago) and a Harley-Davidson rider--not an outlaw,
though! I greatly enjoy scenic photography and pistol shooting and have
done both for many years.
MODERN POWER SUPPLY
Our Australian member Robert W. Elliston modernized the Recital/Consolette
II power supply. He uses the original transformer and rectifiers, replaces
the other electrical components with a few easily available parts including
two LM350T voltage regulators. Bob concludes that the reason his Recital's
background noise is virtually nil is the performance of this power supply.
More about Bob's recital in the next issue. For a schematic/parts
list, send me a SASE.
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Consolette II Available
Member Dick Thompson writes: "I feel the same as Ray Hoag who wrote in
your last newsletter, I don't want to just 'throw it away'. Let's try again
to give my Consolette II a new home. It works beautifully, just make me
an offer. Nuf said". Contact him at: 403 E. Smith Street, Bay City, MI
48706, Phone 989-684-1076
Theatre Schober For Sale
Built in 1977, last played in 1993. Swell pedal scratchy and some scuff
marks and scratches. In Champaign, IL, about 3 hours from Chicago, Indianapolis
and St Louis. Contact (non-member). Ernie Noa, Software Department Director,
1607 North Market Street, P.O. Box 5076, Champaign, IL 61825-5076. Phone:
217-351-5076 Ext. 2371. Fax: 217-351-2674. Email: email@example.com.
Consolette II Available for Free
"I have a Consolette II which I assembled back in the early sixties. Changes
were made to the circuitry and knowledge of electronics will be necessary
to undo them and fix others. Cabinet is in good shape", writes our member
Harold Taylor. Email: firstname.lastname@example.org. Phone 518-765-4222 (answering
machine but I pick up when home).
Reverbatape and Time-Delay Available for Free
A Reverbatape and a Time-Delay set which needs to be rewired is available,
contact our member: Harold Taylor. Email: email@example.com. Phone:
518-765-4222 (answering machine but I pick up when home)
Recital Available for Free
Member Michael James has a Schober Recital organ available for free. It
is pretty complete, including Schober's combination action, "percussion"
sounds and Reverbatape (needs new tape). The original amplifier is also
included but no speakers. The organ is available to anyone who can come
and get it. Located in Lansing, Michigan. Contact Michael James: Email:
firstname.lastname@example.org. Phone 517-394-1243 leave a message.
Reverbatape parts or working models. Contact (non member) Greg Schlachter:
Phone: 403-509-4240, Email: email@example.com
String Tone Samples Needed
John DiPaolo writes: "Right now I am collecting organ pipe samples from
the internet. I have enough Flute, Diapason, Reed and Percussion samples
to get started, but there seems to be a real shortage of good quality organ
String tone samples. Do you know where I might find good String tone samples,
either on the internet or on a commercial CD?" If you can help Joght now I am collecting organ pipe samples
from the internet. I have enough Flute, Diapason, Reed and Percussion samples
to get started, but there seems to be a real shortage of good quality organ
String tone samples. Do you know where I might find good String tone samples,
either on the internet or on a commercial CD?" If you can help John, please
send him an e-mail at: firstname.lastname@example.org, or contact me and I will forward
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